Brahmavidya and Women
Q. You were talking of strict regimen;
men too should follow this, is it not?
A. Of course! They too are flesh and blood,
bone and marrow; they too are afflicted with illness. Each and every person
who is afflicted with birth and death and suffering from this cycle is
in need of this medicine. And, whoever helps himself to this treatment
has to follow the regimen too. Man or woman, whoever neglects the regimen,
cannot get rid of the illness. Men cannot afford to say that they are free
from it; they have to stick to it closely and observe it strictly. Even
if they have had Brahmopadesam (initiation into the spiritual path of Brahma-realisation),
if they are devoid of virtues like Sama and Dama they cannot
save themselves, whether they are men or women.
Q. But then, Swami,
why do many scholars learned in the Sastras declare that women have no
right for acquiring Brahmavidya? What is the reason?
A. There is no
reason at all in declaring that women are not entitled to Brahmavidya.
Vishnumurthy taught Bhudevi the glory of the Githa; Parameswara taught
Parvathi the Brahmathathva through the Guru-Githa. That is what
the Guru-Githa means when it says, "Parvathi Uvaacha". What do these
words mean? Besides, Easwara initiated Parvathi into Yogasastra
and Manthrasastra. The Brihadaranyaka Upanishad mentions that Yajnavalkya
taught Maitreyi this very same Brahmavidya. This is a well known
fact. Now, you can yourself judge and draw your own conclusion whether
women are entitled to Brahmavidya or not.
Q. There are some
others, Swami, who declare that women are not entitled to Brahmacharya
and Sanyasa. Is it true? Do the Vedas prohibit it?
A. The Vedas
have two sections: Karmakanda and Jnanakanda. The Karmakanda is for beginners,
for the undeveloped; and the Jnanakanda is for the more advanced, the developed
intelligences. There is no reference to men or women in connection with
these. The beginners are worldly; how can they understand the immortal
message of the Jnanakanda about the Atma? In the Brihadaranyaka we have
mention of Gargi and Maitreyi who shine in the spiritual splendour of Brahmacharya
and Sanyasa. In the Mahabharatha also, we have Subha Yogini and other women
who are ideal women, full of virtue.
Q. Can women win Brahmajnana, even
while leading the householder's life?
A. Why not? Madaalasa and others were
able to get Brahmajnana while in the Grihastha stage of life, the
house-holder status. You must have heard of these from the Yogavasishta
and the Puranas, how they attained the height of auspiciousness, Brahmajnana
itself. Then again, do not the Upanishads declare that Kaathyayini, Sarangi,
Sulabha, Viswaveda and others were adepts in Brahmajnana?
Q. Swami, are there any women who have
attained Brahmajnana while in the Grihasdtha stage? And who attained
it while in the Sanyasa stage? Or any who realised it while in the Vaanaprastha
stage? Are there women who got it in the Brahmacharya stage of life?
A. Do not think that there are no women
who have realised Brahmajnana while in any one of these stages.
Choodaala attained it while a Grihastha; Sulabhayogini won it while a Sanyasini;
Maitreyi attained it while in the Vaanaprastha stage of life; and Gargi
got it in the Brahmacharya stage. There were other great women of Bharath
who have achieved this height. Why, there are even today many who are of
this great category. I simply mentioned some four names because you came
up with that question now; so do not in the least loose enthusiasm. There
is no need for loss of heart.
Q. When we have
so many examples of women who have attained Brahmajnana, how is
it that so many argue against it? Why do they impose limitations on women?
A. It is sheer
absurdity to deny women the right to earn Brahmajnana. But in worldly
matters, it is necessary that some limitations are respected by them. They
are laid down only in the interests of Dharma and for Loka-kalyana. For
the sake of the upkeep of morals and for social health in the world, women
have to be bound by them. They are too weak to maintain certain standards
of life and discipline; they have some natural handicaps; that is the reason
for these limitations.
This does not
mean any fundamental inferiority. Why, even Pundits and men learned in
the Sastras acquire their Jnana through the reverential homage they pay
to the Feminine Deity, Saraswathi. The patron Deity of Vidya, as well as
of Wealth and Jnana are all three feminine. They are Saraswathi, Lakshmi
and Parvathi. Even in customary correspondence, when women are addressed,
they are referred to as, "To...who is equal to Lakshmi" etc. You always
speak of Maatha-Pithaa, Gowri-Sankara, Lakshmi-Narayana, Seetha-Rama, Radha-Krishna
etc. The feminine name comes first and then the masculine. From this itself
you can gather how much reverence is paid to women here.
Q. The distinction
between man and woman - do you condemn it as Mithya-jnana or do
you value it as Atma-jnana?
A. My dear fellow!
The Atma has no such distinction; it is eternally conscious, pure, self-effulgent.
So, it can only be Mithya-jnana; it can never be Atma-jnana.
It is a distinction based on the Upadhi, the mask, the Limitation.
The Atma is neither masculine, feminine nor neuter; it is the form that
limits and deludes and that wears the names.